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[tunnie]

what are you getting to the gallon then?

At the best, 22.

Thats a bit rubbish, motherT's 3.0 auto estate gets more than that, 25-27mpg on average.

Heck I get 24-27mpg on gas! - Sell yours, get a 3.2, gas it. Be a lot cheaper!

RE Boot space - Fit donut tank - 250 mile range. Or fit standard 80L tank and get a roof box...

[Auto Addict]

I didn't say I was buying that one, only quoted it as an example.

The earliest I would think of changing is spring next year.

[Lazydocker]

Not keen on gas, as you lose boot space.

4k worth of boot space? It's not that good.

Plus, you already have a pikey hook... How often do you need all the boot? I reckon you could hire a trailer for the few times it was needed and still be quids in

IMHO, LPG is a no brainer on a car that you intend to keep and use

[Auto Addict]

what are you getting to the gallon then?

At the best, 22.

Motorway or town? ....or with burger van?

Down to about 18 with the van, can achieve high 20's on a long run (motorway).

My 2.2 used to tow and average 22.

[feeutfo]

I didn't say I was buying that one, only quoted it as an example.

The earliest I would think of changing is spring next year.

I'm sure a test drive will put you right on that decision.

[feeutfo]

what are you getting to the gallon then?

At the best, 22.

Motorway or town? ....or with burger van?

Down to about 18 with the van, can achieve high 20's on a long run (motorway).

My 2.2 used to tow and average 22.

....you,ve been ragging it haven't you?

[aaronjb]

Heck I get 24-27mpg on gas! - Sell yours, get a 3.2, gas it. Be a lot cheaper!

For the record, I get about 22-23mpg around town in my 3.2, 28mpg on a run if it's a long distance 70mph with no traffic.. obviously gassing it helps the 'mpg' but from what I see here, the older 2.5/3.0 engines are much more economical..

[Lazydocker]

Heck I get 24-27mpg on gas! - Sell yours, get a 3.2, gas it. Be a lot cheaper!

For the record, I get about 22-23mpg around town in my 3.2, 28mpg on a run if it's a long distance 70mph with no traffic.. obviously gassing it helps the 'mpg' but from what I see here, the older 2.5/3.0 engines are much more economical..

Slightly, not really much IMO (having owned a 3.0 and a 3.2 Back to Back). That said... I can't seem to get much more than 25 from my 3.2 on a run unless SWMBO drives

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

[aaronjb]

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

In the 3.2, by any chance? <slight drift warning> I find mine runs at ~90C around town, but on the motorway drops down to 85C when you're doing 70.. I always thought that was odd and needed fixing, though it could just be that the rad is age expired (as soon as you're stationary it'll go up high enough for the fans to kick in on low).. similar to yours, at all?

[Jimbob]

Yes, you dont hang about....noticed on the test drive at Newent putting your foot down heavily

I average 22-23 around town in the 3.2, mainly short trips, again, up to about 28 on a steady run.
My exhaust is totally shot though, which doesnt help.

Looking at the LPG route very soon.

[Kevin Wood]

When I used to run it on petrol, my 3.2 used to do 34/35 MPG in flat cap mode on a motorway run (65/70MPH on cruise, no more).

Probably about 30/31 MPG at a more typical motorway cruise (80 +/- 10).

26MPG average mixed commuting (some urban, some A roads).

I would need to be quite heavy-footed to get it down to 22. Hypothetically 

In fact, IIRC it averaged about 21/22 on the Autobahn (cruise set to 120).

22MPG does sound thirsty, although if your driving is significantly more "urban" then it might be reasonable. You should be able to get 30+ on a motorway run, if speed is sensible, IMHO.

Then again, I've heard it said by others that the 2.6 is a bit disappointing with regard to fuel consumption. It probably has all the same internal losses as the 3.2 engine yet it's geared to rev higher at a given speed.

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

Does it sit at around 80C, unless in traffic, and bounce around a couple of times before stabilising during warm-up? Mine used to do that. It is around 85/90 on the gauge now and warms up a bit quicker. Can't say I've noticed any fuel consumption improvement for the pain of having changed it, but it switches to gas quicker. Probably better for the vapouriser having more heat to boil off the heavy ends too.

[feeutfo]

Yes, you dont hang about....noticed on the test drive at Newent putting your foot down heavily

I average 22-23 around town in the 3.2, mainly short trips, again, up to about 28 on a steady run.
My exhaust is totally shot though, which doesnt help.

Looking at the LPG route very soon.

Well he's not denying it so must be cloggy feet.

Although they(2.6) do have a 4.2 diff I believe.

[Kevin Wood]

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

In the 3.2, by any chance? <slight drift warning> I find mine runs at ~90C around town, but on the motorway drops down to 85C when you're doing 70.. I always thought that was odd and needed fixing, though it could just be that the rad is age expired (as soon as you're stationary it'll go up high enough for the fans to kick in on low).. similar to yours, at all?

That sounds like a case of TADTS. The engine throws out quite a lot of heat, so it doesn't take long in traffic before it starts to rely on fans.

As long as it doesn't drop below 85 indicated and it warms up quickly I'd say the 'stat is fine.

[Lazydocker]

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

Does it sit at around 80C, unless in traffic, and bounce around a couple of times before stabilising during warm-up? Mine used to do that. It is around 85/90 on the gauge now and warms up a bit quicker. Can't say I've noticed any fuel consumption improvement for the pain of having changed it, but it switches to gas quicker. Probably better for the vapouriser having more heat to boil off the heavy ends too.

Yep... Was running too hot all the time. Changed the rad which has cured that but it tends to drop to 80 or so lately, sits bang on 85 on a run and rarely goes above it, even stationary, unless it's warm out.

I'm fairly sure it's just an age thing with the stat... It's definitely closed and opening by the feel of the hoses on cold warm up but may just be getting a little tired. It's on the list to be done but not urgent It switched to LPG fine, normally by the end of my road in the current weather, certainly within a mile at the most on a cold morning We'll have to see what happens over the winter, although I doubt it will see much use TBH

[aaronjb]

I do have an underlying issue with running temperature though... Possibly a slightly sticking Stat as sometimes it's fine, others it seems to run too cool... I must get around to changing it

In the 3.2, by any chance? <slight drift warning> I find mine runs at ~90C around town, but on the motorway drops down to 85C when you're doing 70.. I always thought that was odd and needed fixing, though it could just be that the rad is age expired (as soon as you're stationary it'll go up high enough for the fans to kick in on low).. similar to yours, at all?

That sounds like a case of TADTS. The engine throws out quite a lot of heat, so it doesn't take long in traffic before it starts to rely on fans.

As long as it doesn't drop below 85 indicated and it warms up quickly I'd say the 'stat is fine.

Good to know I'll keep an eye on it as the ambient temperature plummets (I hear we're going to see -20C? Allegedly..) and if it starts cruising along at <85 then I'll worry.. for now I'll just keep the new stat as a spare