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[russ b]

f*****g hell!!!

[Impact Pete]

f*****g hell!!!

shop around, find out exactly whats involved, get a friend who's been towing for some time to help practice the moves!, then check the cost, just what I found on a google.

[Andy H]

i don't know what you mean by 3pin and 4 pin, sorry i am novice to all this. 
i thought that when you plugged in van that there was an audible/buzzer when indicators applied  :-/
is it true that length of van shouldn't exceed car length??

The requirement is that there must either a visual or audible indication that the indicator(s) on the trailer are working.

The standard (3 pin) indicator relay just flashes the indicators. A towing (4 pin) indicator relay monitors the current and if it senses more than 3 indicator lamps are working it sends a voltage out on the 4th pin to flash an indicator lamp on the dashboard.

The Omega already has a space in the instrument cluster for a bulb with a symbol (don't what of, black line with a knob on the end :-/) and the wiring to the flasher relay in the fuse box.

[Andy B]

looking at that link above from andy if i buy a caravan that does not take overall "mam" above3.5t i should be ok...passed my test this year :-/

The way I understand it you're OK, but you'd need to check .......... I passed my test before I think you were born  :-? :-? :-?

[smokingomega]

I think you do need to take a test to tow a caravan.
A few lads at work had to do it. You can tow a unbraked trailer up to 750kg i think.
Most caravans are above this limit.
There are even lads at work that can drive hgv`s (the old class 2) but can`t tow a caravan!
Just another way of getting money out of you unfortunatly.

[Andy B]

I think you do need to take a test to tow a caravan.
A few lads at work had to do it. You can tow a unbraked trailer up to 750kg i think.
Most caravans are above this limit.
There are even lads at work that can drive hgv`s (the old class 2) but can`t tow a caravan!
Just another way of getting money out of you unfortunatly.

From the link I posted ......
Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.

For example:

a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Whereas

the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle's handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold

[Andy B]

where is this space on dash on a mini pre facelift and is there connection or wiring behind this to connect light.
 ....

Page 26/27 I know this is facelift, but they're more or less the same 
 http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/UserGuides/OmegaOct2002.pdf

the wiring bewteen the dash tell tale & the 4 pin realy is already there 

[omegadan67]

Omega is without doubt the best towcar I've had, bar none.

+1,I have towed with many different cars and 4x4s and the mig is the best so far

omega estate's are good tow cars however i dont think they are the best ( rose tinted glasses ) i have a discovery for towing with and imho that is far better than my miggy for towing i pull a twin axle knass 'van 28 foot long 1900kgs 6 berth

[russ b]

show off... lol

[omegadan67]

looking at that link above from andy if i buy a caravan that does not take overall "mam" above3.5t i should be ok...passed my test this year :-/

if you passed you test this year then you will need to sit a nother test to allow you to tow a caravan reguardless of weight.

new drivers are linited to vehciles upto 3.5 t non towing

[Varche]

outstanding info thanks a lot guys. andy that info will save me hours of aggro. i have witter towbar just need bush/bolt kit and im away i think its only about 15quid from witter??
it would seem the twin axle is the way to go if only because it holds its weight better reducing weight on towbar. 

Not suggesting for a minute that this might happen to you, BUT twin axle caravans are often associated with Pikeys! . How do I know this? We toured and lived in our long single axle caravan and at quite a few sites they checked us out to see if we were pikeys. Notably a lovely site at Marciac in S. France. The owner let us on. ten minutes later a twin axle pulled by a BMW 5 series arrived with a man on his own. They checked him out and let him in. An hour later the rest of his 6 van pikey entourage turned up with Transits towing twin axles. They then got the washing machines out and plumbed them in etc etc ................

[Andy B]

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if you passed you test this year then you will need to sit a nother test to allow you to tow a caravan reguardless of weight.  .....

It's everything to do with weight! Look at their example!

[omegadan67]

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if you passed you test this year then you will need to sit a nother test to allow you to tow a caravan reguardless of weight.  .....

It's everything to do with weight! Look at their example!

new drivers are limited to 3.5 mam/gvw no excecptions
mam/gvw is the mass of the vehicle without any trailer. i.e vauxhall omega 3.0 auto elite estate 2200kgs train weight ( with a trailer ) 3900kgs

so vx omega elite estate 3.0 auto with a trailer braked or un braked not to be driven by newly passed drivers.

2 ways round that
1- pass trailer test for cars
2- become a show man

[Andy B]

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new drivers are limited to 3.5 mam/gvw no excecptions
mam/gvw is the mass of the vehicle without any trailer. i.e vauxhall omega 3.0 auto elite estate 2200kgs train weight ( with a trailer ) 3900kgs

so vx omega elite estate 3.0 auto with a trailer braked or un braked not to be driven by newly passed drivers.

2 ways round that
1- pass trailer test for cars
2- become a show man

I'm still not with you  :-/ If an Omega has a mam/gvw of 2200kgs then surely you can tow a caravan that has a gross weight (whatever the new term is) of 1300kgs  :-/ :-/

[same #same#]

if you take the caravan or trailer wheels off there is no class