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MOT Failure Sheet...
« on: 16 June 2009, 22:56:55 »

Had the MOT on the old gal today and the following came up:

  • ABS system warning lamp - ABS fault indicated.
(the garage reccommend chucking it through a Tech 2 in order to ascertain if it's the wheel speed sensors rather than ECU as the symtoms seem to point to that)

  • Rear Fuel Hose Leak
  • Offside Headlamp aimbeam image kicked up to the Offside
This one got me as it would seem that my offside headlamp is actually a euro-spec lamp!  So back on with the original non projectors we go.

However, what was strange was that the hydraulic lifter problem I thought I had was actually an exhaust manifold gasket blowing - but it still got through emissions!!

The garage I've taken it to does all the taxi's and government vehicles in the area.

Question - exhaust manifold gasket blowing on Driverside cylinder bank apparently, so in terms of anyone having done one before, are there any tricks I should know regarding getting the infamouse studs loose?

What is worrying though is that the two rear shocks both have a light misting of oil on them.  Not enough to fail on, as they were not leaking as such, but they were only put on in november, and are genuine VX items.  :o
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #1 on: 16 June 2009, 23:01:44 »

ABS light...remove the bulb for the MOT...get it sorted after...

Swap lights over as said...

Get fuel leak sorted urgently

If it didnt fail on blowing exhaust gasket, dont sort it till after it has a full MOT!!
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #2 on: 16 June 2009, 23:06:06 »

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ABS light...remove the bulb for the MOT...get it sorted after...

Swap lights over as said...

Get fuel leak sorted urgently

If it didnt fail on blowing exhaust gasket, dont sort it till after it has a full MOT!!

My thoughts exactly MC, as far as i'm concerned it's passed it's emmissions so that's cool as far as i'm concerned.

I've got it booked in to have the Tech 2 put on it, and the fuel pipe done, as I don't have access to a ramp at the mo.

Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #3 on: 16 June 2009, 23:11:10 »

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Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y
If the tester doesn't see the ABS light come on when the ignition is switched on and then extinguish after 5 seconds (or whatever the time delay is), then it's still a failure.
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #4 on: 16 June 2009, 23:11:20 »

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ABS light...remove the bulb for the MOT...get it sorted after...

Swap lights over as said...

Get fuel leak sorted urgently

If it didnt fail on blowing exhaust gasket, dont sort it till after it has a full MOT!!

My thoughts exactly MC, as far as i'm concerned it's passed it's emmissions so that's cool as far as i'm concerned.

I've got it booked in to have the Tech 2 put on it, and the fuel pipe done, as I don't have access to a ramp at the mo.

Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y

Remove the clocks panel, as per the link below (watch the video as well)  and just take out the relevant bulb ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1192573381

 ;) ;)


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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #5 on: 16 June 2009, 23:13:02 »

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Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y
If the tester doesn't see the ABS light come on when the ignition is switched on and then extinguish after 5 seconds (or whatever the time delay is), then it's still a failure.
Not sure that is the case, worth checking mot handbook
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #6 on: 16 June 2009, 23:21:13 »

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Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y
If the tester doesn't see the ABS light come on when the ignition is switched on and then extinguish after 5 seconds (or whatever the time delay is), then it's still a failure.

TB....  That is correct ...


http://www.motuk.com/mot_manual/3-4.asp#14


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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #7 on: 16 June 2009, 23:22:00 »

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Disconnect the light you say.... how do I do that then ?  :y
If the tester doesn't see the ABS light come on when the ignition is switched on and then extinguish after 5 seconds (or whatever the time delay is), then it's still a failure.
Not sure that is the case, worth checking mot handbook
I can tell you exactly what the handbook says J.
If the ABS light does not follow the correct procedure as stated by the manufacturer, it's an automatic MOT failure.
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #8 on: 17 June 2009, 01:33:54 »

Agreed, IMO, the ABS light not coming on with the ignition, on an ABS equipped car, should be an MOT failure.

Depends on how eagle eyed the tester is though  :-X

Only a personal preference, but I think it is wholly unethical to pull warning lights out to get through an MOT.

Fix the fault!   :y
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #9 on: 17 June 2009, 07:41:07 »

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Agreed, IMO, the ABS light not coming on with the ignition, on an ABS equipped car, should be an MOT failure.

Depends on how eagle eyed the tester is though  :-X

Only a personal preference, but I think it is wholly unethical to pull warning lights out to get through an MOT.
Fix the fault!   :y


.....correct James - especially when the fault concerns safety critical equipment.

Simple rule:   If it's on the car as original equipment, it should work.  If it doesn't, fix it.
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #10 on: 17 June 2009, 08:24:34 »

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.....correct James - especially when the fault concerns safety critical equipment.
ABS is hardly what I would call "safety critical", I'd say it's more a tool for the idiots who think having it fitted entitles them to drive 6" off your bumper.
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #11 on: 17 June 2009, 08:27:43 »

as its going for a retest for an abs fault....surely the tester will just laugh at you if youve removed the bulb!

'may' have worked before hand, but not after a fail surely!

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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #12 on: 17 June 2009, 10:34:01 »

well it wasn't a case of 'just drive it in suir' he drove it onto the ramp.

The light behaves until you start to roll over 5mph then there seems to be a heavy power draw on the battery and both abs/tc lights come on.

I'd commented that the abs unit was a common fault on the early migs, but he's adamant that it's unlikely and probably a sensor issue.  If it is, it can be only two things, the rear sensors, or the castleations that it reads on the pickup wheel (which i'm dreading).

JamesV6CDX, I agree which is why I take all my old sheds to this guy. He's as straight as a die, and someof the time I don't like what I hear from him, but at the same time after that I know its right - he normally spends over an hour on the older cars.  Ultimately it's my family i'm driving around in the car.

When i got the car there was no way the MOT was kosher on it, but for £250 what did I expect  :-?

Yes, after looking at the book, the requirement is that the check should still function as per normal. Which when the car is stationary it does.

I still think it's daft that the MOT doesn't require the road test anymore.
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #13 on: 17 June 2009, 11:29:32 »

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The light behaves until you start to roll over 5mph then there seems to be a heavy power draw on the battery and both abs/tc lights come on.


Symptom of Altenator charging fault if I recall from other posts on here!
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Re: MOT Failure Sheet...
« Reply #14 on: 17 June 2009, 12:50:10 »

 :o  the plot thickens - now I had my charging system checked 6 months ago and it was fine... apparently!
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