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What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« on: 08 July 2008, 08:21:37 »

Right!! im taking the plunge later on and doing the 4 pot cambelt!  :-/ What tools will I need? any advice or tips before I start entering unchartered territory??

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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #1 on: 08 July 2008, 08:44:39 »

Just follow the Haynes book of lies Dan - piece of p*#s compared to the V6.

You will need the cam lock and idealy the gadget for adjusting the belt tension - it's a bit like a spring balance gauge which sets a certain deflection on the belt for a given force :y
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #2 on: 08 July 2008, 09:01:30 »

 :o Right... Will try and fathom that before I start!  Rain holding off play at the moment  ::)
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #3 on: 08 July 2008, 09:04:25 »

 ;) Good luck Dan; take it steady and OOF`s here if you get stuck! :y

Debs` tip: Take some digi-pics a you go, `might help with re-assembly! :y
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #4 on: 08 July 2008, 09:06:28 »

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;) Good luck Dan; take it steady and OOF`s here if you get stuck! :y

Debs` tip: Take some digi-pics a you go, `might help with re-assembly! :y


A very good idea Debs.... Thanks for that  :y :y I need all the help I can get !  :P
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #5 on: 08 July 2008, 09:07:22 »

If you need the car to be on the road quickly make sure you have all tools and components to hand before you start the job.
The job will take longer than the 1 hour or less allowed by the experts because you haven't done it before and you may have to request info. on here as you go along.
It's not difficult if done with patience, and I don't think you need any special tool to set the tension on the belt. This is taken care of by setting the tensioner cam correctly, and the experts on here will clarify things for you if you are unsure of anything.
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #6 on: 08 July 2008, 09:10:30 »

you can set the belt tension by feel - old rule of thumb for belts used to be if you can twist the belt through 90deg at mid span of the longest run then it's about right :-?
Hopefully someone more knowledgable will be along to give sounder advice ::)

good luck :y

alternatively seen as it's raining you could just go down the Black Horse and spend some of that 18k  ;);D
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #7 on: 08 July 2008, 09:15:02 »

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you can set the belt tension by feel - old rule of thumb for belts used to be if you can twist the belt through 90deg at mid span of the longest run then it's about right :-?
Hopefully someone more knowledgable will be along to give sounder advice ::)

good luck :y

alternatively seen as it's raining you could just go down the Black Horse and spend some of that 18k  ;);D



 ;D ;D ;D If I wasnt working I would be knocking on the door by now  :P
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #8 on: 08 July 2008, 09:17:55 »

You will need:
- bowl - to drain coolant – when changing pump
- spanners – 10, 13 and 15 (15 must be long to pull external tensioner)
- Alan’s key – to set the tensioner and replace pump (don’t remember size but can check)
- lock tool – Draper

My tip – check where the tensioner positioned is (that long thing which is sticking out of tensioner). It needs to go between 2 lines, otherwise will fit but might undo the tensioner
I have made a lot of photos so can help you.
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #9 on: 08 July 2008, 09:20:25 »

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You will need:
- bowl - to drain coolant – when changing pump
- spanners – 10, 13 and 15 (15 must be long to pull external tensioner)
- Alan’s key – to set the tensioner and replace pump (don’t remember size but can check)
- lock tool – Draper

My tip – check where the tensioner positioned is (that long thing which is sticking out of tensioner). It needs to go between 2 lines, otherwise will fit but might undo the tensioner
I have made a lot of photos so can help you.



photos would be good bud  :y :y
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #10 on: 08 July 2008, 09:23:28 »

Have a lot...in my camera. Will download them onto Picassa today.
We could even make a written guide with photos and attach it to the 4Pot DVD.
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #11 on: 08 July 2008, 09:27:28 »

 ;D ;D ;D ;D Sounds great!!!

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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #12 on: 08 July 2008, 10:05:12 »

What is this misinformation about tensioning tools - the tensioner has a mark and an arrow for new and used belts - just turn the tensioner with the alan key until the arrow is on the new mark, and the job's done.

Tools needed

15mm spanner for aux tensioner
E10 socket for crank pulley bolts
17mm socket for turning crank
Deep reach 10mm socket for cambelt cover bolt
5mm (I think) hex bit for water pump
Alan key for tensioner (5mm again?)
13mm ring spanner for tensioner
13mm socket and small extension bar for idlers
Mallet to beat water pump out

With the tension set and new belt fitted, turn the engine through a complete revolution and re-set the tension, it will need re-setting. Then turn the engine a few times and make sure each time when you come back to TDC everything is as it should be.

Use a little grease on the back of the crank pulley when refitting.

You'll also need a torquewrench, from memory the important ones are

25nm water pump bolts
25nm cambelt idlers
20nm cambelt tensioner
6nm cambelt cover bolts
 
If you get stuck, yell :y
« Last Edit: 08 July 2008, 10:08:14 by JamesV6CDX »
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #13 on: 08 July 2008, 10:14:21 »

There you go, Dan.
James did my 4-pot belt at the Shifnal meet in about 45 mins. and had his eyes open for about 10 of those.
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Re: What tools for 4 pot cambelt change? and any HELP
« Reply #14 on: 08 July 2008, 10:16:49 »

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There you go, Dan.
James did my 4-pot belt at the Shifnal meet in about 45 mins. and had his eyes open for about 10 of those.

I may have to keep them open a little longer if we attack your stem seals...  ::)
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