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mantahatch

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This may cause a few arguments
« on: 14 December 2010, 15:06:53 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11987395


I would like to say that I had no intention of causing any offence to anyone with this post.

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Re: This will cause a few arguments
« Reply #1 on: 14 December 2010, 15:17:35 »

oh dear, besides - woudn't it have been easier to just keep him in the wheelchair and push him where you wanted rather than dragging him out and hauling him across the street?  :o
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« Reply #2 on: 14 December 2010, 15:19:04 »

Im sure they thought he would be at his most vulnerable if removed from his wheelchair, and pose less of a threat.
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« Reply #3 on: 14 December 2010, 15:23:28 »

i got the impression the newsreader was trying to say it was his own fault and trying to depfend the police actions
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Re: This will cause a few arguments
« Reply #4 on: 14 December 2010, 15:47:48 »

I wouldn't be inclined to base judgement on the back of this snapshot of the situation.

There's no easy way to police mass demonstrations and I'm afraid that if the alleged victim and his brother had the inclination to be in the midst of mayhem then they were opening themselves up to such an occurrence.  When things get this ugly, big-boys rules apply

This is why I have said that to encourage mass demonstration is irresponsible – things get out of control very easily.

I did notice near the end of that piece that a police officer was being dragged away from the immediate scene by some colleagues so there may some reason for concern, however,  there's only a certain amount of shit that any individual can take before reacting inappropriately and police officers, despite all the training, are no different..

I've been in similar situations.
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Re: This will cause a few arguments
« Reply #5 on: 14 December 2010, 16:07:36 »

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i got the impression the newsreader was trying to say it was his own fault and trying to depfend the police actions


the beeb just being scrupulously fair to both sides as usual  :y
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Re: This may cause a few arguments
« Reply #6 on: 14 December 2010, 16:11:51 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X
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« Reply #7 on: 14 December 2010, 16:15:05 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X


sitting incapacitated in a wheelchair in a threatening manner, Sarge  :y
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« Reply #8 on: 14 December 2010, 16:18:19 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X


sitting incapacitated in a wheelchair in a threatening manner, Sarge  :y

Are you implying you cannot break the law whilst sat in a wheelchair? :o  I can think of several ways without trying  :y
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« Reply #9 on: 14 December 2010, 16:24:59 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X


sitting incapacitated in a wheelchair in a threatening manner, Sarge  :y

Are you implying you cannot break the law whilst sat in a wheelchair? :o  I can think of several ways without trying  :y

I'm sure you can break the law, I just doubt whether you could threaten an able-bodied policeman sufficiently to warrant that treatment tho  :o
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Re: This may cause a few arguments
« Reply #10 on: 14 December 2010, 16:26:26 »

I am sure if he allegedly broke the law, I cannot think of many laws he could break that would warrant being dragged out of a wheel chair.
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Re: This may cause a few arguments
« Reply #11 on: 14 December 2010, 16:29:57 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X


sitting incapacitated in a wheelchair in a threatening manner, Sarge  :y

Are you implying you cannot break the law whilst sat in a wheelchair? :o  I can think of several ways without trying  :y
agreed he could have just thrown a brick at a copper  if so then justified    amazing how the other day opinions on the police were  should do more  now someone whos disabled is involved everyone hates old bill   its not like he didnt know the risks of being there :y
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« Reply #12 on: 14 December 2010, 16:32:08 »

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Me thinks the police have done themselves no favours here.

Depends what the chap was doing before he became the object of the Police Officer's attention  :-X


sitting incapacitated in a wheelchair in a threatening manner, Sarge  :y

Are you implying you cannot break the law whilst sat in a wheelchair? :o  I can think of several ways without trying  :y

I'm sure you can break the law, I just doubt whether you could threaten an able-bodied policeman sufficiently to warrant that treatment tho  :o

Refering back to Zulu'z comment, you cannot make passing judgement on a small snapshot of the story.  Lets wait for the full story to come out  :y
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Re: This may cause a few arguments
« Reply #13 on: 14 December 2010, 17:14:50 »

The chap has cerebral palsy....
Did you see see him on BBC Breakfast this morning...by 'eck
certainly put his point over, well political, but I can't recall him mentioning the tuition fees at all. ;) so why was he there in the first place. He basically said they will do it again until they get rid of this government. Does not seem like a peaceful protestor complaining about tutition fees to me !!!
Should not have been pulled out of his chair, but I wonder whether its a bit deeper than we are led to believe :-?
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Re: This may cause a few arguments
« Reply #14 on: 14 December 2010, 17:16:48 »

"i cant physically move the wheelchair myself,my brother was pushing me.

that could determine a lot on why they justified pulling him from his chair, how did the officer this as such a threat as to do this to pull him from his seat
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