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[feeutfo]

first off your money your choice!!
2nd, they are a cracking bike to ride,
comfy reliable mile muncher
 good reliability
easy to service at home
parts availability excellent and easy to get hold of
if a bit pricey from stealers, but loads of specialist at around half the price of the stealer
one reservation from me though
have you got any insurance quotes yet? given your age and experience it may be a bit pricey?

If i wait like a good boy and let me gain 1 years NCB, it will be very little to change, maybe £50 a year more 

Agree about riding it, sooo much fun!

@chris - yes dealers are expensive, but reading the GS forums, there have been nothing but praise for the BMW warrenty, can't speak of cars, but people who had shaft drive failures or fuel pumps go have them replaced without question. Even someone who never checked their oil and a gearbox seal went, had a whole new engine and box on warrenty!

Also looking on Autotrader, the markup at the dealers is not that much, maybe around £500-1k.\

Dr X - I am 6ft4 

Cem - Show me a car, that does 50mpg, 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, goes off road, and is really comfy for 10k?

Tunnie, if I made a children in my first marriage he/she would be in your age.. And I wish you /them to stay as a single piece in case of an accident..So forget 3.2 seconds and try to live longer.. Sorry.. :-/

Very true cem. But a reasoning that has always failed to have any impact on anyone even even remotely interested in bikes.
 Performance is all and your personal safety is lost in the rush and thrill. Add in the fact at least 5 times that amount needs to be spent to match engine performance and the bhp per ton ratio with a car.
There is nothing like it if you have the bike bug. And possibly nothing worse if you dont.

Re the GS Tuns, you make a good argument for it, and seem to have heart set, so maybe the right bike for you, but that price..... Bloody hell.

TB have a chat with him will you. :-)
 

[cem_devecioglu]

W are not here for a long time Cem,we are here for a good time.

Ok.. have seen some bike accidents.. not on tv or youtube or news..  if you see one closely then you will understand..

[cem_devecioglu]

Trust me a meat grinder produces more uniform product

[Mr Skrunts]

Cem - Show me a car, that does 50mpg, 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, goes off road, and is really comfy for 10k?

Diesel Westfield.

OK, it doesn't go off road desperately well, but why would you want to? 

Kevin

cant you drive them on a grass car park then, thats off road.   

[albitz]

Been there and done it Cem.Right leg is Fubared,had lots of surgery,need a new knee now.Left kidney also furbared,small fractures to spine etc etc............didnt stop me though.
As Chris says,once youve got the bug,Mrs Albs says im far to old to be riding them but I still love bikes,always have ,always will.

[cem_devecioglu]

Been there and done it Cem.Right leg is Fubared,had lots of surgery,need a new knee now.Left kidney also furbared,small fractures to spine etc etc............didnt stop me though.
As Chris says,once youve got the bug,Mrs Albs says im far to old to be riding them but I still love bikes,always have ,always will.

I understand you.. But not everyone may be "lucky" as you

[albitz]

your stretching the definition of lucky a bit Cem.

[tunnie]

Cheers all.

Maybe i should just get a Monaro, they are not much more 

Hummm:

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VAUXHALL+MONARO/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-240-4294957908-4294966947/advert.action?R=200935340922959&distance=97&postcode=NN29+7NR&channel=CARS&make=VAUXHALL&model=MONARO&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2005&vehicleRegLetter=05

Chris - For me the bike just fitted, some like Harleys, i personally hated it. Some like R1's or ZX10's  They don't really do it for me. I want to be nice and comfy, with some good grunt to go with it, with nice up-right riding position, and without insane power.

Might try a FJR anyway at the weekend, never actually ridden a sports tourer.

[albitz]

Out of curiosity Tunnie,whats the BHP of the beemer? :-/

[feeutfo]

W are not here for a long time Cem,we are here for a good time.

Ok.. have seen some bike accidents.. not on tv or youtube or news..  if you see one closely then you will understand..

Deliberately tried to expose myself to the results of bike accidents on the road and track. Having a closer look at the isle of man when the inevitable happened, several happened under my nose and in my mirrors. All in an attempt to see sense and calm down and be responsible. Failed. Had my fair share as well. Made no odds. Not brave or clever to be clear, idiotic in fact.

 Did give up road riding in the end, now track only, where an ambulance waits and all traffic is going the same way with some run off and nothing too solid except the ground to hit.

Cant explane it, if you have the bug, there is little you can do. If i had kids, i would only allow track riding.....where possible. Keep the risk to a minimum, although they will come off more often.

[TheBoy]

try a few miles on the zx10. I know it doesn't float your boat, and your weakling wrists will suffer, but it will give you an idea of proper bikes (wrt ridability/performance) - I'm guessing the beemer is the first 'big' bike you've ridden

zx10 is 20yrs old, technology has moved on, and its certainly not the best handling bike, and stopping it is, errr, 20yr old technology . But it will hopefully give you another angle of experience.

[cem_devecioglu]

W are not here for a long time Cem,we are here for a good time.

Ok.. have seen some bike accidents.. not on tv or youtube or news..  if you see one closely then you will understand..

Deliberately tried to expose myself to the results of bike accidents on the road and track. Having a closer look at the isle of man when the inevitable happened, several happened under my nose and in my mirrors. All in an attempt to see sense and calm down and be responsible. Failed. Had my fair share as well. Made no odds. Not brave or clever to be clear, idiotic in fact.

 Did give up road riding in the end, now track only, where an ambulance waits and all traffic is going the same way with some run off and nothing too solid except the ground to hit.

Cant explane it, if you have the bug, there is little you can do. If i had kids, i would only allow track riding.....where possible. Keep the risk to a minimum, although they will come off more often.

yep..thats ok.. no cars or trucks around you (meat grinders) .. no deadly obstacles..  Even I can try that..

[tunnie]

Out of curiosity Tunnie,whats the BHP of the beemer? :-/

About 105 ish i think, but its more about torque really, in 5th (has 6 gears) it just pulls and pulls. For over takes i never had to click it down to get some power going, just twist and go, any speed, any gear and it was off!

[albitz]

TBH mate thats pretty tame for a bike that size.for a 10k bike I would want a lot more potential performance.But at the end of the day its each to their own.

[TheBoy]

Out of curiosity Tunnie,whats the BHP of the beemer? :-/

About 105 ish i think, but its more about torque really, in 5th (has 6 gears) it just pulls and pulls. For over takes i never had to click it down to get some power going, just twist and go, any speed, any gear and it was off!

Thats appalling.

Any 750cc or higher will easily have the same 'chuck it in 5th and leave it' lazy ridability.  A lot of the 600cc 4cyl can manage that now.