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[Doctor Gollum]

Been sidetracked in Phoenix the last few days and got home to see the news.

Have been fortunate to spend a fair amount of time in LA last year, over a month in total, and usually have an explore around, including a few drives up and around the Pacific Palisades area... Last time in November was a particularly special day, and we drove from Beverley Hills along Sunset Boulevard down to the coast, literally chasing sunset.

Saw a news crew doing the same drive through Pacific Palisades immediately after the fire went through and I have no words

Apparently the local reservoir had been drained for maintenance but the water company hadn't bothered telling anyone.

[Raeturbo]

Mm, that’s how conspiracy theories start and of course however unlikely, sometimes,  there’s no smoke without fire. No pun intended.

[grifter]

Mm, that’s how conspiracy theories start and of course however unlikely, sometimes,  there’s no smoke without fire. No pun intended.

And the city fire brigade went woke 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Imagine building wooden houses in forests in an area that has had regular and periodic droughts for millennia, and imagine then not maintaining or creating new fire breaks, nor clearing dead, dry undergrowth in those forests because wildlife habitats are deemed more important than peoples lives and habitats. 

Then imagine taking a crucial reservoir out of commission for maintenance, not refilling it despite warnings of extremely hot dry weather, and being surprised when some idiot chucks a fag butt out of his car and the whole damn region burns down as the fire hydrants run dry.... 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse

[Doctor Gollum]

Timber houses can be forgiven to a point. They're relatively cheap and quick to build and are more resilient to earthquakes.

But the building codes do need looking at to make them less susceptible to initial ignition. That said brick and steel don't hold up too well to fire storms either.

But nonetheless the infrastructur and protection measures leave alot to be desired.

And I wonder if Chris Packham.would be so quick to blame global warming if his house in the New Forest suffered the same fate because someone once saw a trout in the river.

[Rangie]

Imagine building wooden houses in forests in an area that has had regular and periodic droughts for millennia, and imagine then not maintaining or creating new fire breaks, nor clearing dead, dry undergrowth in those forests because wildlife habitats are deemed more important than peoples lives and habitats. 

Then imagine taking a crucial reservoir out of commission for maintenance, not refilling it despite warnings of extremely hot dry weather, and being surprised when some idiot chucks a fag butt out of his car and the whole damn region burns down as the fire hydrants run dry.... 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse

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Sounds to me like you may have read Jeremy Clarksons article on his opinion of the fires, he certainly makes a lot of sense.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Imagine building wooden houses in forests in an area that has had regular and periodic droughts for millennia, and imagine then not maintaining or creating new fire breaks, nor clearing dead, dry undergrowth in those forests because wildlife habitats are deemed more important than peoples lives and habitats. 

Then imagine taking a crucial reservoir out of commission for maintenance, not refilling it despite warnings of extremely hot dry weather, and being surprised when some idiot chucks a fag butt out of his car and the whole damn region burns down as the fire hydrants run dry.... 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse

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Sounds to me like you may have read Jeremy Clarksons article on his opinion of the fires, he certainly makes a lot of sense.

No I haven't seen it.  Where is it? 

He usually comes out with some plain common sense though. 

[Rangie]

Imagine building wooden houses in forests in an area that has had regular and periodic droughts for millennia, and imagine then not maintaining or creating new fire breaks, nor clearing dead, dry undergrowth in those forests because wildlife habitats are deemed more important than peoples lives and habitats. 

Then imagine taking a crucial reservoir out of commission for maintenance, not refilling it despite warnings of extremely hot dry weather, and being surprised when some idiot chucks a fag butt out of his car and the whole damn region burns down as the fire hydrants run dry.... 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse

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Sounds to me like you may have read Jeremy Clarksons article on his opinion of the fires, he certainly makes a lot of sense.

No I haven't seen it.  Where is it? 

He usually comes out with some plain common sense though. 

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He has a column in the Sun on Saturday.

[Raeturbo]

Yes hard to get to hear common sense these days, diversity, woke nonsense, etc etc are far more important issues for the media👍

[Doctor Gollum]

Yes hard to get to hear common sense these days, diversity, woke nonsense, etc etc are far more important issues for the media👍

Now the DEI policies are starting to come home to roost, the wokists are beginning to wake up.

Obviously Trump is personally responsible for almost everything that happened since 2008, and the things they really can't pin on him are all because of climate change.

Saw a Channel.4 reporter asking a firefighter from Washington State how they were approaching the fire they were working.

It was on a scrubby hillside from a back garden and there was a small fire gradually working it's way down.

I paraphrase: 'basically we're going to let it eat itself. As it works it's way down we're clearing a line in the ground layer across working upto it. Suddenly it won't have anything to burn and then we'll just damp it down. That's how it's done.'

Cool as a cucumber.

Obviously had it been a raging inferno the reporter would have been filming it from Santa Monica pier.