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Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« on: 28 November 2024, 16:28:45 »

https://youtu.be/q5pg_Qdwftg?feature=shared

Latest UK figures are far from good again.....and possibly even higher than last year if the figures are revised upward, as they usually are. :-\ :-X
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Re: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2024, 17:59:43 »

Note how he makes out that 30,000 illegal immigrants so far this year are inconsequential.   :-X

Pontefract, Pontypridd, Weybridge, and Stratford-upon-Avon are all largish towns with populations of around 30,000.   ::)
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Re: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2024, 18:30:58 »

Ah you know Britain needs all this cheap labour for jobs that the indigenous population don’t want to do.

Make ‘em legal and welcome 300,000 a year with open arms like Spain is doing.
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« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2024, 18:52:42 »

Ah you know Britain needs all this cheap labour for jobs that the indigenous population don’t want to do.

Make ‘em legal and welcome 300,000 a year with open arms like Spain is doing.

Spain has plenty of room to put them.  :-X
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Re: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« Reply #4 on: 28 November 2024, 19:13:27 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(
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« Reply #5 on: 28 November 2024, 19:48:09 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(

The Tories completely lost the plot on immigration.  >:(

They talked the talk with a points based immigration system to keep the members and voters on side, but bowed to the big corporates and watered it down to the point that it was meaningless and so failed to walk the walk.  ::)

Their duplicity may well keep them out of power for a generation.  ???
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« Reply #6 on: 28 November 2024, 20:03:53 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(

The Tories completely lost the plot on immigration.  >:(

They talked the talk with a points based immigration system to keep the members and voters on side, but bowed to the big corporates and watered it down to the point that it was meaningless and so failed to walk the walk.  ::)

Their duplicity may well keep them out of power for a generation.  ???

Bojo was perfectly happy with open borders and unlimited immigration.



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« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2024, 00:19:15 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(

The Tories completely lost the plot on immigration.  >:(

They talked the talk with a points based immigration system to keep the members and voters on side, but bowed to the big corporates and watered it down to the point that it was meaningless and so failed to walk the walk.  ::)

Their duplicity may well keep them out of power for a generation.  ???

Carrie Bojo's Mrs was perfectly happy with open borders, unlimited immigration, Net Zero and wokery.

I think Boris was easily manipulated with womanly charms.  :-X  ::)

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Re: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2024, 05:41:02 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(

The Tories completely lost the plot on immigration.  >:(

They talked the talk with a points based immigration system to keep the members and voters on side, but bowed to the big corporates and watered it down to the point that it was meaningless and so failed to walk the walk.  ::)

Their duplicity may well keep them out of power for a generation.  ???
Apparently sinking the boats was off the table, so the options are pretty limited regardless of the actual desire to do anything.
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Re: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2024, 10:57:14 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(


Is that a real, independently verifiable number and not just one of the 64% of statistics that is made up on the spot?


As the entire population is about 68million(babies, children, adults, pensioners) 1million p/a 'mostly' from India would be visible from space :P . Round here most of the recent immigrants are eastern European and have moved into the traditional shitty parts of town.
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« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2024, 10:59:30 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(


Is that a real, independently verifiable number and not just one of the 64% of statistics that is made up on the spot?


As the entire population is about 68million(babies, children, adults, pensioners) 1million p/a 'mostly' from India would be visible from space :P . Round here most of the recent immigrants are eastern European and have moved into the traditional shitty parts of town.

From the ONS.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2024, 11:53:48 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(


Is that a real, independently verifiable number and not just one of the 64% of statistics that is made up on the spot?


As the entire population is about 68million(babies, children, adults, pensioners) 1million p/a 'mostly' from India would be visible from space :P . Round here most of the recent immigrants are eastern European and have moved into the traditional shitty parts of town.

From the ONS.


A quick skim through their published figures for long-term immigration reveals that the 'mostly Indian' in the post I questioned is either misunderstood, deliberately provocative or both. It states that the number of work-related is 116k and study-related is 127k. If you add them together, 243k is not most of 1.2million. An important number I'll leave you to look for is the number of students who stayed once their studies were concluded. Dependents are not included in those figures, and that's where a real 'problem' might be found.


Another important figure to note is the 475k emigrants(79k of them British nationals) in the same time period.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2024, 12:17:10 »

300,00 a year is the good old days of New Labour.
It now nearly a million a year, give or take. Mostly from India apparently.  :(


Is that a real, independently verifiable number and not just one of the 64% of statistics that is made up on the spot?


As the entire population is about 68million(babies, children, adults, pensioners) 1million p/a 'mostly' from India would be visible from space :P . Round here most of the recent immigrants are eastern European and have moved into the traditional shitty parts of town.

From the ONS.


A quick skim through their published figures for long-term immigration reveals that the 'mostly Indian' in the post I questioned is either misunderstood, deliberately provocative or both. It states that the number of work-related is 116k and study-related is 127k. If you add them together, 243k is not most of 1.2million. An important number I'll leave you to look for is the number of students who stayed once their studies were concluded. Dependents are not included in those figures, and that's where a real 'problem' might be found.


Another important figure to note is the 475k emigrants(79k of them British nationals) in the same time period.

The demographics and ethnicity of the UK is changing at an alarming rate however people choose to view the statistics.

How do you predict the demographics of the UK 50 years from now, Nick?
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