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Central heating boffin required.
« on: 10 November 2024, 15:00:13 »

Leaking like a bastard. Obviously been repaired many times before .....but not by me.

What exactly am I looking at here?

What is the function of the blue box?


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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #1 on: 10 November 2024, 15:41:05 »

Looks like an ancient three way valve. Hot water only, central heating only, or both.
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #2 on: 10 November 2024, 15:56:35 »

Looks like an ancient three way valve. Hot water only, central heating only, or both.

Yep..... I've found quite a few videos on you tube. Looks like the 3 way valve comes complete the 'box unit' and wiring that then has to be connected to a wiring box.

I mean, how hard can it be to change? ::)

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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #3 on: 10 November 2024, 16:13:02 »

Looks like an ancient three way valve. Hot water only, central heating only, or both.

Yep..... I've found quite a few videos on you tube. Looks like the 3 way valve comes complete the 'box unit' and wiring that then has to be connected to a wiring box.

I mean, how hard can it be to change? ::)
Let us know when you've done it  :)
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #4 on: 10 November 2024, 16:40:14 »

Looks like an ancient three way valve. Hot water only, central heating only, or both.

Yep..... I've found quite a few videos on you tube. Looks like the 3 way valve comes complete the 'box unit' and wiring that then has to be connected to a wiring box.

I mean, how hard can it be to change? ::)
Let us know when you've done it  :)

Looks like the 3 way valve complete with box and wiring cost around £70-£80 from Screwfix. So not too bad.
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #5 on: 10 November 2024, 17:05:39 »

Avoid the Danfoss ones, else you'll be doing it again in 2-3 years.

Easy enough job, but you need a partial or full drain down - use it as a good excuse to put cleaner in it before draining, and getting the right amount of inhibitor in after you're done.
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #6 on: 10 November 2024, 17:08:23 »

It's commonly called a diverter valve, but it does what Stemo describes.

The large blue/black plastic electrical bit usually unclips and pulls off the mechanical (copper/brass) valve, allowing you to operate the valve manually.

However, if it's leaking water, then it's the copper/brass bit that needs changing. It's not obvious from the photo - if your valve has been inserted properly using screw compression fittings, then it may be a job you can tackle yourself. However, it does look like someone has been in there with solder and a blow torch. If any of the fittings have been soldered up then you'll probably need to get someone in that knows what they're doing to replace it.
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #7 on: 10 November 2024, 17:39:03 »

Would this do the trick? I am assuming that my pipes are 22mm.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/drayton-27101sx-3-port-motorised-valve-22mm-compression/81844?
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #8 on: 11 November 2024, 08:19:45 »

Yes although I would be advising getting a Honeywell one if you can as they seem to be the only reliable ones around these days
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #9 on: 11 November 2024, 09:43:38 »

Also, with the Honeywell ones, you can very easily swap the motorised head (the part that most commonly fails) while leaving the rest in place, avoiding the need for a drain down.

This may also be possible with Drayton, but I have no experience with them. 
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #10 on: 11 November 2024, 12:12:56 »

Also, with the Honeywell ones, you can very easily swap the motorised head (the part that most commonly fails) while leaving the rest in place, avoiding the need for a drain down.

This may also be possible with Drayton, but I have no experience with them.

There seems to be no way quick release way I can remove the blue plastic box. No release mechanism.

Although it is more than 20 years old so probably 'not a thing' back then.
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #11 on: 11 November 2024, 12:14:00 »

Also, with the Honeywell ones, you can very easily swap the motorised head (the part that most commonly fails) while leaving the rest in place, avoiding the need for a drain down.

This may also be possible with Drayton, but I have no experience with them.

yep....can be removed to aid 'spannering' ;)
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #12 on: 11 November 2024, 13:40:27 »

Yes although I would be advising getting a Honeywell one if you can as they seem to be the only reliable ones around these days
Yup, since using Honeywell, I haven't been replacing mine every 3-5 years :y
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #13 on: 11 November 2024, 18:23:26 »

I suppose I'll need to invest in some sort of olive cutter. I doubt the old olives will yield easily......unless somebody knows of a surefire method of removing them. :)
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Re: Central heating boffin required.
« Reply #14 on: 11 November 2024, 19:46:41 »

I suppose I'll need to invest in some sort of olive cutter. I doubt the old olives will yield easily......unless somebody knows of a surefire method of removing them. :)

I have both an Olive Cutter and an Olive Puller but for many years I just cut a diagonal cut in the Olive with a junior hacksaw. Don’t go too deep though, you just need to go deep enough to get a flat blade screwdriver in the slot and then twist the screwdriver to split the Olive. Clean up the pipe with a bit of wire wool and it’s job done.  :y

Just for reference, the old blue 3 way valve controller were generally produced by Switchmaster, and they were sold as a one piece item, so the electric part was a non-replaceable part.
I use the Honeywell 3 way port valve whenever I change one.
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