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[bigboykarl]

£284 million contract for 10,000 guards ...thats £28400 per person for 6 weeks...
 G4S are paying around £10 per hour so say the average guard covers 60 hours a week thats £3600 over 6 weeks  ..so only £248 million profit..less training...wonder what baron reid ex labour home secretary cut is

[Dishevelled Den]

Yes I can see the reason for your concerns BBK.

This may yet be another case where lobbying, slick presentation and an intimate understanding of the system has very effectively obscured the vision of those who are supposed to vet such proposed contracts in the (apparently vain) effort to ensure that the taxpayers get value for money and that those alleging their services to be professional, secure and responsible are, in fact, not misrepresenting their assertions and are being wholly truthful in what they say.

This country now seems to be at the mercy of those who decide to blag, with impunity, what they can from the public purse. 

[Varche]

Another poorly drawn up contract? What penalty clauses are there for none delivery/failure?

[albitz]

The situation is a total disgrace.Heads should roll,careers should be ruined,money should be clawed back from the company,but this is The U.K so, no chance it wil happen.

[Varche]

The situation is a total disgrace.Heads should roll,careers should be ruined,money should be clawed back from the company,but this is The U.K so, no chance it wil happen.

And there you go! No one ever gets sacked, handsome pay off yes, back in a similar job in a few months time.

[omega3000]

£284 million contract for 10,000 guards ...thats £28400 per person for 6 weeks...
 G4S are paying around £10 per hour so say the average guard covers 60 hours a week thats £3600 over 6 weeks  ..so only £248 million profit..less training...wonder what baron reid ex labour home secretary cut is

All this spending money when i presumed there was none left in the kitty , £284 million must be a drop in the ocean of the bottomless money pit 

[Gaffers]

rather......sething................useless.......bint................


"it is only right that we give an extra 10000 seats to ticket for troops"

Why, so you can slap the troops in the face with them as they are working and cannot use the rather tickets?!  Yes it's ok to cancel the leave for soldiers, and them losing any money they had spent on holidays*, as long as the rather gravy train dosn't stop.....

* the army doesnt compensate in such circumstances and companies give you the big f-off pill if you try and recover your money afterleave has been cancelled.

[razzo]

have been doorstepping there training venue in Stratford on & off for the last few weeks & believe me if you could see the people passing through the gate to sign up we should be very afraid

[martin42]

so with the amount of people on the dole and also benefits,they cant get enough people,hummm stop giving those people benefits and give them a job and get them paying back into the system even if it is for a few weeks

[OOMV6]

£284 million contract for 10,000 guards ...thats £28400 per person for 6 weeks...
 G4S are paying around £10 per hour so say the average guard covers 60 hours a week thats £3600 over 6 weeks  ..so only £248 million profit..less training...wonder what baron reid ex labour home secretary cut is

I am not saying that 284 million is not a large sum, but the guards aren't the only cost that G4S will have, is it? It's a little short sighted to make a statement that they will profit 248 million

[Vamps]

rather......sething................useless.......bint................


"it is only right that we give an extra 10000 seats to ticket for troops"

Why, so you can slap the troops in the face with them as they are working and cannot use the rather tickets?!  Yes it's ok to cancel the leave for soldiers, and them losing any money they had spent on holidays*, as long as the rather gravy train dosn't stop.....

* the army doesnt compensate in such circumstances and companies give you the big f-off pill if you try and recover your money afterleave has been cancelled.

[/highlight]

I think any holiday company that does not give those involved their money back should be named and shamed, the whole things seems to be a shambles to me.....

[bertie1.8vectra]

G4S are in my view a bunch of pillocks...... they farm out a lot of their event work to smaller security firms and cherry pick the best work...they sent a novice guard to our site last week to oversee shopfitters in a Next store overnight,the lad was approx 19yrs old and barley spoke english(how did he get his S.I.A. conflict management and all that) he spent the entire shift outside of the store either on his phone or asleep in his car... so in the interests of our tennant i spoke to my duty manager who advised me to inform the key holder as to what was going on.. Key holder shows up takes 1 look and rings G4S and tells them to get the useless guard off site asap and replace asap, to which they reply no body available.... I did apply to them when i was a dole scrounger a couple of years only to get knocked back because of my IVA(they dont employ you if your in debt.your a security risk!!).. so i reckon they`ve breaked up big time with the olympics.....

[Gaffers]

rather......sething................useless.......bint................


"it is only right that we give an extra 10000 seats to ticket for troops"

Why, so you can slap the troops in the face with them as they are working and cannot use the rather tickets?!  Yes it's ok to cancel the leave for soldiers, and them losing any money they had spent on holidays*, as long as the rather gravy train dosn't stop.....

* the army doesnt compensate in such circumstances and companies give you the big f-off pill if you try and recover your money afterleave has been cancelled.

[/highlight]

I think any holiday company that does not give those involved their money back should be named and shamed, the whole things seems to be a shambles to me.....

Thats normal for the forces, we often have to take out special holday insurance which covers getting called up.  Even then it doesn't always pay out.  It's a rather joke!

[Kevin Wood]

I thought it was common knowledge from their numerous previous opps-ups that G4S are a useless bunch of knuckle draggers. Did they expect anything less when rewarding them the contract?

Should have used our forces from day 1 and invested the £284M in avoiding the recently-announced redundancies.

[jaykay]

I thought it was common knowledge from their numerous previous opps-ups that G4S are a useless bunch of knuckle draggers. Did they expect anything less when rewarding them the contract?

Should have used our forces from day 1 and invested the £284M in avoiding the recently-announced redundancies.

Now that Kevin is an excellent idea. I can't think why the politicians did not think of that!!