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[The Red Baron]

As for the meets, how about sorting a decient sized meet over on the east coast 

The locations for the 2 "National" meets have come about based on a North-ish and South-ish location, and finding sites that have suitable facilities and will take large groups.

There was a York meet for a couple of years, although it did lack facilities, esp for the ladies.

Plenty of decient sites on the east coast.
Whether its East Yorks / Northumberland or Lincolnshire / Norfolk area 
It would be great for the lads who live on this side of the penines.

Also, for 2 years running, Lazydocker arranged a meet near Kings Lynn, but stopped when it became an Adults Only site.

sir moanalot first started that one, yes it was a shame as we had undercover working areas.a bloomin good meet it was too.
 

He did indeed organise it the first year. I did start hunting fore another site but finding somewhere that will take a group is quite hard That said, I may have found a suitable place near me but I don't know what the facilities are like yet. If it's OK we would probably have the whole site to ourselves

Personally, travelling to the Lakes/Newent is part of the fun. They are both great meets and I'm hoping to be at one of them at least this year (even if the nearest one is over 500 miles round trip)

sounds good. keep us informed paul. 

[SMD]

The debacle ( please tell me I'm wrong)
Entwoods point( I don't like it but it's a valid point)
Politics in excess (and nothing else by some members)
Endless negative threads in Gen chat ( I logged on last week and every single thread was depressing)

Also in agreement with the goings on in General Discussion. Far too much negativity and very unwelcoming. I love this forum but dislike the General Discussion section. Everytime a Daily Hate Mail link is posted (usually by the same people) its always something to do with foreigners/muslims/coloured people. I just avoid that part of the forum.

I bet I'll get lynched now 

[Entwood]

Chris .. I know I've already posted .. but to pick up on your post ..

Agree with virtually everything you say .... it is of specific note to me that NEITHER Jim/LJay or Daz have shown interest in the lakes ...

One would have hoped that this would have been the ideal point to shake hands, share a beer, and put it all behind them ... but I feel that just won't happen ... too many entrenched points of view I guess .. and that sort of sums up the way Gen Dis is...

I'll shut up now ...

[Darth Loo-knee]

The debacle ( please tell me I'm wrong)
Entwoods point( I don't like it but it's a valid point)
Politics in excess (and nothing else by some members)
Endless negative threads in Gen chat ( I logged on last week and every single thread was depressing)

Also in agreement with the goings on in General Discussion. Far too much negativity and very unwelcoming. I love this forum but dislike the General Discussion section. Everytime a Daily Hate Mail link is posted (usually by the same people) its always something to do with foreigners/muslims/coloured people. I just avoid that part of the forum.

I bet I'll get lynched now 

Think this is the idea The Boy had for this thread mate.
Get things off peoples chests as it were.
 

[Darth Loo-knee]

Chris .. I know I've already posted .. but to pick up on your post ..

Agree with virtually everything you say .... it is of specific note to me that NEITHER Jim/LJay or Daz have shown interest in the lakes ...

One would have hoped that this would have been the ideal point to shake hands, share a beer, and put it all behind them ... but I feel that just won't happen ... too many entrenched points of view I guess .. and that sort of sums up the way Gen Dis is...

I'l shut up now ...

Why shut up now?
Your entitled to your opinion

[Big_Al]

There has been  IMO a general  lack of enthusiasm in all walks of life going back a year or two . A lot people in the UK are having a hard time with the current  recession & rising prices . There is an awful lot of doom & gloom around everyone at the moment & this rubs off in the postings on a forumn like this one.

I am Chairman of a regional  (Essex)guitar club  which has been going for 15years , all of a sudden over the last year or so , attendances have dropped & the spirit  & energy of the members  has waned alarmingly. So much in fact that it seems the club may fold at the end of this year.  No ones fault  it is just what the current  state of affairs in this country has brought on the people.

Going back to the Oof forum, I find that there is not as much posting on most of the areas  as there used to be & the banter  & fun has subdued somewhat. With mechanical & electrical items a lot has been covered & is available on the "search"  facility, so members & more so"new" members do not have to post as many questions because the answers are already there if you look.

We have , once again IMO,   one of the most comprehensive maintenance sections of any car forum, again the answers & details are ateady there for all.

This forum was started by just a few &  is indeed a credit to them but as time goes on & Omegas become rarer, it may well end up with just a few again ,who knows.

By being part of this forum I have increased my knowledge of the Omega 100x  & I have met & socialised with some great people who are now considered  good friends .

All I can say is long Live OOF & thanks to those who started it 

[RobG]

Chris .. I know I've already posted .. but to pick up on your post ..

Agree with virtually everything you say .... it is of specific note to me that NEITHER Jim/LJay or Daz have shown interest in the lakes ...

One would have hoped that this would have been the ideal point to shake hands, share a beer, and put it all behind them ... but I feel that just won't happen ... too many entrenched points of view I guess .. and that sort of sums up the way Gen Dis is...

I'll shut up now ...

Credit where credit is due Nige. Daz has organised the venue, he could easily have stuck two fingers up

[Teebee]

I realise i'm hardly what you would call a regular but I stopped visiting so much when I parked the mig for the last time prior to scrapping. I suspect that's the main reason for the drop off, the number of possible members goes down with every car scrapped. And as an aside I will say that for an owners site we seem to have a more than unhealthy interest in reducing the numbers available(although I do realise that it's more profitable to scrap than sell in a lot of cases).

Rather strong adjective to use T. If Omega`s weren`t being dismantled to keep others roadworthy OOF`s days would be numbered, fact.

I'm not sure it is too strong, obviously a lot of spares are being used to keep others going but i'd argue that a lot of what's being sold is in fact upgrade parts because they have the big ticket value. I'd like to bet the number of Elite/MV6 being broken is significantly higher than CD and CDX for exactly that reason. When I knew my old bus was becoming a money pit I enquired after a couple of 'project' cars to replace mine and didn't even get a reply, a few days later they appeared as breakers.

I will also agree with a couple of other posts that their is a very distinct feeling of a clique on the boards, luckily i'm thick skinned and ignored it which let me see this board for the goldmine of helpful members that it is, others may not be willing/able to see through it though.

And not wishing to purely focus on the negative, this is by far and away the best car forum that I have been a member of. Not only in quality of information in the maintenance guides but in willingness to offer advice again and again to people who refuse to use the search button 

[Entwood]

Chris .. I know I've already posted .. but to pick up on your post ..

Agree with virtually everything you say .... it is of specific note to me that NEITHER Jim/LJay or Daz have shown interest in the lakes ...

One would have hoped that this would have been the ideal point to shake hands, share a beer, and put it all behind them ... but I feel that just won't happen ... too many entrenched points of view I guess .. and that sort of sums up the way Gen Dis is...

I'l shut up now ...

Why shut up now?
Your entitled to your opinion

I've posted twice ... well three times now .. and don't want to push my views too hard .. let others have their say. I would not want this thread, given its importance, to become an argument between a small number of folks... the more views given, and the broader opinion aired the better IMHO 

[millwall]

well said al   and to be honest if you compare this to other motoring forums oof wins hands down  the atmosphere is a bit strained at the moment and to be honest with all the moaning and doom and gloom i dont come on here as much  that said try asking for help on a renault forum  thats enough to depress anyone 

[Vamps]

Does anyone feel apprehension  about the Main meets since the unfortunate situation between Jimbob and loo knee. Ie the LJay debacle?

I suspect this may be behind the the low interest in the Lakes meet. But I do hope i am wrong.

Apologies for mentioning it, and risking dragging all that up again. It's a subject at the core of Oof IMO. One that risks everything. I desperately hope we have moved on but somehow...



If the key point of Oof spirit is the meets as TB suspects, if I understand correctly, then I'd list problem areas in no particular order as;

The debacle ( please tell me I'm wrong)
Entwoods point( I don't like it but it's a valid point)
Politics in excess (and nothing else by some members)
Endless negative threads in Gen chat ( I logged on last week and every single thread was depressing)

Not sure I should post this but here goes ( wince )

I'm afraid I think you're pretty close to the mark Chris The whole sorry affair was/has been/is/always(?) will be hanging over the Forum IMO

As for the other points...

Gen Dis is where the problems are IMHO, all other parts run well.

In Gen Dis there is now no proper laughter, those who think they are funny... aren't. Way too much masked swearing/profanity and insults.

Now "banter" is good .. but there is very little about, a few folks have their own "private" exchanges, which usually ends up with a few more masked swear words, that add nothing to the forum.

Political comment is overwhelming .. but don't anyone dare to give a contradictory viewpoint.. you will be leapt on by the small but vociferous few.

I don't think there's been a "careless", "pointless", "stupid" thread where folks simply talk rubbish for a long, long, while; simply because someone will either go to far, or more likely, take themselves too seriously and complain.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, and someone will accuse me of elitism/snobbery/whatever, but the personality/culture/profile/age of the folks who own Omegas has changed dramatically as the price of them has dropped.

This is mainly why the forum has changed IMHO. There is also the fact that many "members" don't actually own one anymore, and look on the forum simply as a chat room.

There is very little "management" can do about these matters, as the forum is made up of the people who frequent it, and that is changing rapidly.

The old members no longer post, we have very few female posters - hardly surprising given the way women are talked about on the forum - and if I had young kids I would be very wary of them reading some posts, given the content, on what is supposed to be, and used to be, a "family" site.

Entwood, you're spot on. There's far too much political talk (IMO) and negatives

TB... Although I do (sort of) agree with you I think that there's also the "normal" post winter low as well I know I've not been online as much as I used to be

Have I really got to agree with you again....
I think that LD pulls some good points together, and I agree with the winter blues, and a month or more of rain has us all in low mood.............the Ljay/LK issue may have some element of underlying factor but we have had similar discussions about the forum long before this event.

I know there have been nights when I have been in stitches all evening and others where the subject matter has not been to my taste, rather than complain I simply don't post, there are also times when I would like to speak out more, but have to hold back, for professional reasons.......I do agree though with concerns about some of the vicious attacks on members who may dare to disagree with the op - there are more than one viewpoint but reasoned discussion has not always followed, which is sad.

The spirit of oof lives on, and we see lots of evidence to that effect in all the thank you threads, the Vamps family have often asked if there is any subject you can not get help or advice on? not sure there is, the other night we were talking about Hortic horet..  Plants.....

[Dishevelled Den]

Is the answer not to close the General Discussion board or request the purveyors of political matters, or other material not deemed to be in keeping with the general tenor of a car forum to desist or leave - I'm more than happy to abide by the wishes of those who consider this to be such a problem but for Christ’s sake lets not beat about the bush and continue to pick at this perceived sore.

[hercules]

its been mentioned before and i think if there was an area locked off to browsers i.e you have to have so many posts to unlock an area where you can go in and say more than you can on the public forum,would it take more policeing or could it let certain dicussions move there to let off steam

[Debs.]

  "I didn`t come here for an argument"

[Varche]

its been mentioned before and i think if there was an area locked off to browsers i.e you have to have so many posts to unlock an area where you can go in and say more than you can on the public forum,would it take more policeing or could it let certain dicussions move there to let off steam

I have suggested that before now - "Omega Amigos" naturally. 250 posts to be able to post. It would move the cliquey element to behind the scenes - not sure that is necessary though. The Boy certainly never thought it was a good idea.

We do live in depressing times unlike the years before when things were generally better. I do believe that is reflected in the forum